First, understand what prop firms actually want
First of all, you need to understand what prop firms are actually looking for in a trader. And we’re not talking about traders that fail challenge after challenge, because for most prop firms that’s perfectly fine. That’s how they make money, from challenge fees and from traders blowing funded accounts. We are not talking about those kinds of prop firms here.
We are talking about serious prop firms, like FTMO or FundingPips (even though we do not offer our services for FundingPips accounts). These are firms that can actually make money when you make money as a funded trader, because they are looking for traders they can benefit from in the real market, not just in a demo environment.
If you want to have no problems with this type of prop firm, you need to have at least normal trading behavior. Something predictable. Something responsible. You need to trade like a human being, not like a robot.
Our prop firm passing service uses 100% manual trading — no bots, no HFT, no risk of getting banned.
Why HFT makes no sense for prop firms
FTMO or FundingPips do not need funded traders running HFT bots. And this is available for all prop firms, actually. If they wanted robots, they could just run robots themselves. They don’t need you for that.
Most HFT bots that people use are already available on the internet. There is nothing sophisticated or unique about them, and honestly, they are not even that effective. Anyone can download them, and prop firms know this very well.
What serious prop firms want to see instead
What serious prop firms want to see in a funded trader, especially before taking that trader into consideration to A-book them (meaning copying their trades on real market accounts, not demo), is simple.
They want to see that:
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- you actually know what you’re doing, or
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- at least the system you are using makes sense
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- it follows logic
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- it can be analyzed
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- and it can realistically work in real market conditions
No tricks, no bots, no shortcuts.
There are extremely few prop firms that actually have the capabilities, knowledge, and resources to find real talented traders, A-book them, and make money together with them. Most prop firms simply hope that you blow your challenge and funded account so they don’t have to give you payouts, they want to keep your challenge fees.
And when you are dealing with this kind of bad-faith prop firm, you really want to give them zero reasons to deny your payouts or ban your account.
Why HFT will get you banned
High Frequency Trading is one of the easiest ways you can get banned, prop firms can’t wait to find a reason to deny your funded account, your payout request and ban you. And as for HFT, they actually have all the reasons to ban you, it’s not wrong at all for them to do that.
There is no skill involved in that. Most HFT bots or prop firm challenge passing services rely on:
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- automatic copy-trading
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- generic bots downloaded from the internet
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- shared IPs or shared devices
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- identical trades across many accounts
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- forbidden trading systems
All of these things raise red flags instantly.
If you are profitable, this is exactly what prop firms will use against you.
How we approach things at PropFirmKillers
Here at PropFirmKillers, we want you to stay funded long-term and get payouts consistently, not just pass one challenge and then disappear.
Some prop firms even interview traders when a big payout is requested. They want traders to explain how they traded, what they were thinking, how they managed risk. This is not a problem for traders using our services, because this is also a learning environment. You are not blindly clicking buttons, you understand what you are doing and why.
Trading ideas vs bots and copy trading
Prop firms often say that using someone else’s trading ideas or signals is forbidden. Now you understand why they say that.
They are talking about bots, copy-trading, identical behavior, shared devices, and all those obvious red flags.
What we do is completely different.
We share trading ideas and signals, and you execute them yourself.
We do not ask for your account login.
We do not trade on your account.
There is no shared IP, no shared device, and no identical trades across multiple traders.
With our services, everything is structured in a way where:
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- you are in control
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- you trade your own account
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- and no red flags are raised
We know how to go about this properly.
Is it moral to help you make money, against prop firms?
It is. What’s wrong about genuinely wanting to help people, hopefully good faith people, succeed with mostly bad faith prop firms or firms that do not have your best interest at heart?
Most prop firms make their money from traders failing. Helping traders succeed within the rules is not wrong.
FTMO is not a bad faith company, but from our perspective, it does not show the same good faith towards its traders that FundingPips does. That’s exactly why we allow clients to use our services on FTMO accounts, but not on FundingPips accounts.
Our strategies are profitable. If FTMO decides to A-book you, they make money together with you. They should not care that you are executing our trading ideas, they should actually ignore the “how” aspect and be happy about it, because you’re making them money. Our opinions on FTMO are mixed, from a good faith and bad faith perspective, but they are a very serious prop firm.
As for FundingPips, we just feel that it is not right to help you against them. And it is a sad thing that this is how things are in this industry, traders vs prop firms. With FundingPips things are different, they want to see you do well, they want to make money with you, if you know what you’re doing. The thing is, we do not know what you are going to do related to our risk management, and once you get funded and show them that you are consistent, they might use your trading activity to make some money for themselves too, A-booking you, and we do not want to assume responsibility for how you are going to trade in that situation, if you are going to respect our risk management and trading system or not, we do not want to cause damages to FundingPips in any way – they do not deserve that, their team and company overall is of extremely good faith, both towards traders and in general.
Conclusions and final thoughts
If a prop firm would rather see you fail than succeed together with them, that tells you everything you need to know, if you’re not sure what is morally right or wrong.
HFT will get your prop firm account banned.
You should trade like a human, like a trader that knows what he’s doing, trade with logic, in a way that makes sense.
That’s how you stay funded, avoid problems, and build something stable.
There’s a lot to talk about on gambling with prop firms, instead of trading.. 4% risk on each transaction, reverse trading, abusing prop firms and so on, maybe will talk about that in other blog article in the future.
What’s important to understand is that trading with us, you are prepared from all perspectives, we want to see you do well for yourself and your loved ones.